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    Spent a wonderful morning on the Upper Mac yesterday. Some beautiful fish. Caught on Caddis dries. Lotta fun


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    Question, how high do the salmon go up the Mac, found half dozen monster carcasses, completely rotten so I couldn't identify, but very large. Only thing I could think of was spawned out salmon of some sort. Just did not think they got that high, above the dams.

    cheers

  • #2
    beautifully colored fish!

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    • #3
      They may seed those carcasses.

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      • #4
        Pretty fish. Nice to see one without blackspot disease . . .

        I suppose the carcasses were too decomposed to tell if they had an adipose fin. If they were fin clipped, then I would guess they'd been seeded. If not, then they were probably wild, naturally spawning salmon. Isn't there a fish ladder at the dam? I wouldn't be surprised at a few salmon spawning up there.
        aka Scott Richmond

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        • #5
          Glad you had a good day, and thanks for the report. Those fish are lovely.

          I believe there is a trap and haul system at the base of Cougar dam so there should be spawning up there. The challenge isn't getting the adults upstream, it's getting the juveniles down.

          The South Fork McKenzie confluence area had a major restoration project going this summer btw. Here's a little story about it... https://www.registerguard.com/news/2...river-run-free
          The Catchin' Ninny

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          • #6
            This was up by Olallie Creek - feesh were far too decomposed (no meat left, just bones with a bit of head). Hopin' they were seeded, pups got into them, though not really sure there was any meat on them that could transmit salmon poisoning.

            Cheers
            Last edited by Canuck from KS; 11-05-2018, 10:29 AM. Reason: Hopin they were seeded

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            • Crawbugger
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              Just watch the pups. First sign of them not eating or drinking straight to the vet. It's very sudden.

            • Canuck from KS
              Canuck from KS commented
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              Thanks, we been through it with Cody (some speculate he would then have immunity) - more worried about the little one, fine so far.

          • #7
            The upper McKenzie is one of my favorite places in the world. Very special.

            The Chinook salmon make it upstream to just below Trail Bridge Dam. The stretch just below the dam, including around Ollalie Creek, is an important spawning area. The peak spawning was in September, but some carcasses are still around. Almost all of the salmon that make it up that far are wild, unclipped fish. However, ODFW plants some hatchery fish above the dam, in the hopes that their progeny will re-establish a wild run up there, and for the fry and smolts to serve as a food source for bull trout.

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            • Canuck from KS
              Canuck from KS commented
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              Great info Arlen - we miss your input!!

            • Randy Dunbar
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              I've kind of lost track of fish tracking efforts up river. Used to stay pretty connected. There should be lots of data, hopefully refreshed each year, on up river escapement. EWEB has/had cameras to record passage over Leaburg Dam. They have a spawning channel below the velocity barrier at TB Dam and counts are kept of returns there. They also used to make low level helicopter flights over the mainstem to check on spawners there. ODFW also used to float the river in a raft with a "tower" where a person could stand to get a better view down into the water column for counting spawners/redds. The fish also run up Horse Creek. Used to have a very dependable "watching place" but that was all rearranged by high water one year.

          • #8
            Thanks for the info, Arlen!
            aka Scott Richmond

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            • #9
              Update: The little one did indeed get salmon poisoning. We were super vigilant and at the first sign of decreased activity (Sunday, of course) took her into the Vet. Stool sample confirmed eggs from the fluke. She is on the upswing now.

              Cody (the old guy) got into everything Maggie did, and he seems to be absolutely fine, so there may be something to the immunity thing.

              cheers

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              • #10
                That's usually how it works. Never have to worry again. Glad everything is ok.

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                • #11
                  Glad the pup got over it!
                  aka Scott Richmond

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